Yes, usury gets the full treatment.

nostr:nprofile1qqst5teefqektpr4aytgpwyclxlq78v9q9nvd2pem0sgf5pxdttwyzspydmhxue69uhk66rsxg6ns7njwp5kjamw9e3kcmmjv43kcmm4vshxuet59uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshsmj5gug and I had a great discussion in usury when he graciously had me on.

https://fountain.fm/episode/GbE7Us559aG9FBNLAQFM