just like me at age 4, sneaking away from my dad's workshop with a saw or a hammer or something, going out into the garden and using it on trees and plants, or scraps of building materials. i got into so much trouble for that. what was painful for me was that he never saw himself as a teacher, and my demands to be taught, as frivolous, even pahtological distractions. or, sometimes he would "try" to teach me something, and it bored the shit out of me because i never got to use my hands to do any of the work. and it only continued as i discovered, in australian society, the thing that the socialist politicians want to control most is wage prices, and so to pump the wages for workers, to make the numbers in the financial reports good, they deliberately cultivate a population of idle people who they pay to stay unemployed, and of those, some are kept in that box their whole life. i got to age 36, and the only ongoing employment i was ever able to hold for more than a year at a time, every 5 years, or so, was when i just went out and adveritsed my services as a tech support, and i was an absolute fire tech support and trainer, i could not reach enough customers to become financially independent. so, you see where this goes in my mind. the more you can make the child feel like they are doing valuable work, the more you prepare them for their adult life. this is why to many i seem like a child, with poor discipline and time management. i was denied the responsibility. i only got hold of it because i figured out their game, found a hole in their system, used i to acquire the funds, to move to another country, where i quickly discovered htat everywhere else in the world, it's easy to get work. not in australia, and certainly not for a compulsively curious, and constantly ridiculed and bullied individual like me. they stole 30 years of my life. so i am saying all thtis, ot reinforce my point, about how harmful it is to a child to not give them work. and i could also point out the same thing happens with dogs, and the reason why i hate people's pet dogs yapping in their yards so much, a) it's irritating, and distracting, b) the animal is clearly distressed, which triggers a mirroring response of that pain in me, and c) it's a microcosm of my suffering in life. dog lovers don't get that. but i can guarantee you that if you actually lived around a lot of them, the forced idleness and confinement, in some cases, never let out of a tiny enclosure next to the house like in Madeira, is for me the symbol of the neglect of life that fiat promotes.